Welcome to “The Chopping Block!” – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news. This week, Flashbots co-founder Phil Daian joins the show to go deep on what maximal extractable value (MEV) means and how it’s shaping the Ethereum ecosystem.


Show highlights:

  • how Phil started working in MEV and why he believes it resembles ‘Alice in Wonderland’
  • Phil’s definition of MEV and when he realized this was an actual problem
  • how Flashbots was born
  • the story of how Vitalik didn’t care about sandwich attacks at the time Uniswap was released
  • whether it’s possible to minimize MEV via more competition
  • the never-ending debate about whether MEV should be accepted
  • why Tarun thinks the concept of fair ordering is against nature
  • how Bitcoin uses social norms to solve its weaknesses
  • how Google is being called out in court for creating auction to front run its customers
  • how Flashbots worked prior to and after Ethereum’s Merge
  • why Flashbots complies with OFAC sanctions
  • what is the Suave project and how it aims to decentralize Flashbots
  • what the future of MEV looks like





Phil Daian, cofounder of Flashbots:





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Previous coverage of Unchained on MEV: