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Austin Campbell’s claim that Claude Fable 5 cracked the decades-old Jacobian conjecture opens onto a bigger question: why AI’s real-world impact on health care is still lagging.

The conversation turns to battlefield drones in Ukraine, the national security stakes of AI guardrails, and why Chris Perkins thinks finance-style regulation could make AI more trustworthy, not less useful.

With:

• • Austin Campbell, Host of Bits + Bips, Founder of Zero Knowledge Group, and Adjunct Professor at NYU Stern
  • Ram Ahluwalia, Co-Host, CEO of Lumida
  • Chris Perkins, Co-host of Bits + Bips and Head of Franklin Crypto

This clip is from a longer conversation on AI adoption, national security, and financial regulation. Full episode here.

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